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joshua g

Yeah, I'm not saying as much African ancestry in Mexico as is claimed by some of these posters. The claims about the Olmecs actucally being Africans lacks evidence. There are some similarities between African features and some sculptures from the Olmec period. But the claims are overblown. There is some traits of African culture that still remain in Mexico but if there were so many African slaves in Mexico , why doesn't the Mexican population resemble the the physical traits of say Brazil or even Blacks in the United States?
Back to the claims of Olmecs being Africans, why aren't there similar arqueological sites like those of southern Mexico in Nigeria? Where are they?
Also, if the black race is the 'Mother Race' , well why did the African continent stagnate in development?

Payne, Travis L.

This whole thing is real sad. President Fox needs to remember what happened in Yanga, Mexico in 1986. Blood shed. Just to put a statue up of the founder of that city. I was 18 at the time and my family kept me from going over to help fight. Cousins said school came first for me. I have kin in the United States, Mexico, Belize, Nigeria, & Guiana. I still remember the studpidy of the Mexican government and army at that time. They blamed a few people as being "Batista", but it was the large amount of Afican American with "Muscogo- i.e. Muskogee" blood realitives that gave Mexico a hammer blow. They locked up a few inocent people but had casualties of over 200 populous in the Costa Chica and North East Mexico areas. It felt good that Blacks could go in and out of Mexico and help. Look President Fox and peoples of Mexico, not every one fleeing across the border to get away from your dumb "wanna be pure bred Spanish" ass is what you think. And African American and Afro Mexicano families still continue there family blood ties and comunication. When are you pretend Spaniards gonna smell the coffee. England didn't bring the bulk of Slaves to the America's. It was Spain and Portugal. But even then it still falls on Spain because Portugal was a province of Spain. England only got started in the Slave business late in the game and still only brought 6% of the Black population to the shores of North America, Central America, & South America. Present Fox can say what he will or may about African Americans, but in the states of Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Colorado, Louisiana, New Mexico, Kansas, California, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, or Nebraska he might just watch himself. He might just find himself going home to his family in a bag. I love being African American. I love being Black Indian. I love being Creole. I love being a "Pucho Negro". I love being Black. African's have fought and killed Spaniards and half-breed wanna be Spanish for centuries. And as long as there are hito's- yes- "little boys" like him, I don't see it ending any time soon. Black people are still here. Viva Yanga, Cinque, and Chief John Horse! OYE!!!

apologizy to the black race

To the entire Black race living in America, we, the Aryan, pink complexioned race
(better known to you as the White race) that came to these shores from Europe,
England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Iceland, apologize for freeing you from slavery by fighting a horrible war among ourselves that cost the lives of almost two million of our own race.

We apologize for continuing to fight among ourselves over that very issue, even though you've never told us you appreciate our freeing you.

We apologize for splitting to pieces our entire race the world over to take sides
with you to help you survive and become a freer race.

We apologize for forcing the rest of the world to outlaw the slavery which your ancestors had practiced for thousands of years, even though many nations on your home continent still practice it today.

We apologize for thinking we could civilize you when you have proven that it is
indeed an impossible feat, a feat beyond anything we could have ever imagined.

We apologize for introducing Christianity to you and dragging you away from the
Voodoo you previously followed, although you have managed to sneak that religion
back into cultic Christianity and our people have accepted it, as witnessed by
their animalistic whooping and hollering and stomping and screaming instead of
respectfully worshiping our God as they ought to.

We apologize for teaching you to add and subtract (what little you can), thereby
enabling you to run a household and pay your bills (what few you will) and count
your children other than on your fingers and sometimes toes when you have so many
you run out of fingers.

We apologize for providing you with medical care instead of leaving you under the
witch doctors you used before we arrived, as a result of which you have been able to
survive all sorts of diseases to multiply in massive numbers beyond what you could
have without these aids.

We apologize for building schools for you which we have had to repair over and over
after you vandalized them beyond use. We apologize for inventing computers and the Internet, neither of which you use very much, but when you do use them it's mostly to bash our race.

We apologize for building factories and businesses that employ you, if you so desire to work. We apologize for creating millions of bureaucratic jobs within our
government system simply to give you employment, instead of leaving you to find work on your own.

We apologize for promoting and buying your music, although you refuse to buy ours. We apologize for talking and acting as you do, although you refuse to talk and act as we do.

We apologize for placing you in our movies and TV shows and elevating you to a
fictional, heroic level that you have never reached in real life. We apologize for
creating this false image of yourselves in your minds, for we realize after 400
years of trying to help you that you cannot solve problems and provide leadership
and create original thoughts; and the image we've placed in your minds causes you to live in a delusional world. For that we truly apologize.

We apologize for creating quota systems and forced employment programs to make sure you have the best jobs, if you so desire to work. We apologize for thinking we could educate you so that you could learn to build and help others, when you obviously have only the ability to tear down and take from others.

We apologize for giving you welfare and food stamps, with the result that for four
generations over half of your race has not had to work, except in makeshift type of
jobs in our governments and bureaucracies.

We apologize for promoting your children in school as if they could understand basic
arithmetic and grammar, such as multiplication and past participles, when we should
have made sure they were accustomed to manual labor so that we would not have had to make up jobs for them in our governments dusting seats with their butts.

We apologize for developing farms in our own lands which you have never been able to do, and that to this day feed most of your race still living in Africa. We apologize
for coming to Africa and building farms, from which you have now run us off of and
have devastated beyond use, forcing us to continue feeding you.

We apologize for creating the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank (WB) and U.S. Government Foreign Aid Programs and hundreds of charities that funnel billions of our tax dollars and charitable donations to nations around the world run by your race, all because your race cannot take care of itself by itself anywhere you live.

We apologize for giving you the right to vote so you could take over all our major
cities and turn them into high-taxed, crime-ridden cesspools that no civilized
human being can live in.

We apologize for creating the term "reverend," which your leaders use to give
themselves credentials and which their actions have denigrated beyond repair, with
the result that no decent person would call himself "reverend," much less a Christian.

We apologize for trying to come up with an AIDS vaccine to stop the epidemic spread of AIDS in Africa, AIDS being a disease that you created and passed on to us after having sexual intercourse with monkeys and then with one of our idiotic race-mixers who then passed it on to the rest of the world.

We apologize for providing you with warm, custom-made garments instead of the animal skins and leaves that you wore before we arrived. We apologize for providing you with shoes instead of leaving you barefooted as you were before we arrived in
Africa.

We apologize for teaching you how to clean yourselves and your homes, and how to
sanitize the water you drink to keep you from getting even more dreadful diseases
than the rest of your race gets that still lives in Africa. We apologize for teaching you to cook your foods, which keeps you from getting the hundreds of parasitic diseases that your race gets that still lives on your home continent of Africa.

We apologize for providing you with solidly built, heated, and cooled homes with
grass yards instead of the straw huts and dirt yards you were living in before we
arrived, and in which most of your race is still living in in Africa.

We apologize for inventing sports so that you can make millions of dollars and live
like kings, then kill and rape people with impunity, as O.J. Heisman-Trophy-Winner
Simpson and Mike Heavy-Weight-Champion-of-the-World Tyson have done, as well as many others among your race.

We apologize for producing such beautiful people for you to race-mix with, and if
they won't voluntarily mix, you often casually rape them as if you were eating a
piece of fried chicken.

We apologize for building thousands of prisons around the nation to house dangerous criminals, of which your race makes up over sixty percent even though you're only thirteen percent of the U.S. population, and this at an expense of billions of dollars and manpower every year.

We apologize for taking precious metals from the earth on your home continent of
Africa, metals which you neither knew were there nor how to use them if you had
known they were there, but which you love to puncture and cover your bodies with in
the most tawdry way imaginable.

We apologize for those among us who have established charitable organizations,
donated billions of dollars and hours of time, and have devoted their entire lives
to make life easier and better for your race, although most often to no positive
result.

We apologize for all the stupid White ministers whom your race has martyred in
Africa where they were trying to evangelize you to a faith that you can't understand
nor do you want to; yet when you claim to join it soon pervert it with the
Voodooistic concepts you have inherited from your forefathers.

We apologize for building highways and railroads and for inventing flying machines
that you could never have invented but which you use everyday to move about, yet
without thinking or appreciating their origins in the least.

We apologize for paying the majority of both federal and state taxes, to maintain
the governments which protect and promote you but fight against our own people at
every turn.

We apologize for some members of our race who worship the monstrosities your genes have created, such as Jacko the Wacko and Little Fruity Richard and Dennis Nutman Rodman and Don Electrified King and Daryl Coke-Head Strawberry and Whitney Whacked-Out-Screaming Houston and Cassius If-Only-I-Be-White-But-I'm-Really-Black Clay and Tiger Aryan-Hater Woods and Whoopi Thinks-She's-White Goldberg and Oprah Interview-a-Nut New-Age-Goof Winfrey and Ru Triple-Freak Paul and Morgan Act-White-But-Hate-White Freeman and Sammy Convert-To-The-Christ-haters-Religion Davis and Colin Have-A-Black-Pet-In-The-White-House Powell, to name only a few.

We apologize for defeating the major part of the communist threat which cost us
several trillion dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives, but whose doctrines you
still wish to have implemented on the backs of our race to further torture us and
tear us down.

We apologize for spending over $2 trillion dollars on welfare and food stamps in the
last thirty-five years, funds which your race received the majority of, although you
are a small minority among us.

We apologize for introducing you to the rule of law under a republican form of
government, a government that has gone abroad to keep your own warring nations from slaughtering other members of your race by the hundreds of thousands as they did year in and year out before we arrived, and still do every time we leave them alone and do not intervene.

We apologize for teaching you to read a language that contains more than a few words and a couple of hand signs, which has allowed you to take part in our philosophies, our culture, our art, our industry, our collegial nature, and our freedom, even though as soon as you get around them you pervert them.

For surely, if you could not read, how could you have learned the teachings of Karl
Marx, Mao Tse Sung, Joseph Stalin, Leon Trotsky, Nikolai Lenin, Howard Zinn, the
Damocrat Party, the Neo-cons in the Republicoward Party, and others who hate our
race, and have brainwashed you into believing our race is evil and that you are
severely oppressed?

We apologize for placing you under the form of government that our own forefathers
died to create, and for which you are helping to destroy, instead of leaving you
under the anarchy you lived under before we arrived.

For all these wrongs we've carried out against you, we apologize deeply and unreservedly, and if you will please accept our apology, we shall happily and immediately take back all of the above mentioned evils we have cast upon you and
return you to your home continent, if you so desire.

We would with the greatest of glee and cheer even provide you with a nice, little
stipend for traveling money, if you'd go and take your race-traitor wives and
husbands and Mulatto children with you.

We have enjoyed having you here, but because you claim we've been, and are still
being, so mean to you, we'd like to atone by helping you get back to where you came from.

You could live in peace without our persecuting you anymore, and we could save
ourselves trillions of dollars over the next few years by shrinking our governments
and emptying our prisons. We could take hundreds of thousands of security guards and police officers around the country off their jobs and put them to more productive
use, and we could celebrate our own culture without offending you anymore.

Moreover, we could take the three-point shot and the forty-five second shot clock
out of basketball which would return it to a game of plays and strategies, instead
of the run and gun show our enemies have tailored especially for you. We could place the "palming penalty" and the "walking penalty" and the "charging penalty" back in to slow the game down to the point that defense and brains matter.

We could place the "bump and run" rule back in football and have referees start
calling "offensive pass interference" again, to change the game to one where
something more than straight-ahead speed is what matters. The "taunting rule" and
the "roughing the quarterback rule" that we had to implement because of you, we
could do away with completely, because civility would automatically come back into
the game.

The race traitors of our race who hate their own culture and heritage could go with
you, and we won't offend them anymore either. For after a few generations of mixing
with your race they would disappear into the dark tar-mix which your dominant
design-genes make up.

What say? Do you accept our apology? Do we have a deal? Please let us know, soon.

AIDA

LETS QUIT ALL THIS SKANKY AZZ NONSENSE AND UNITE LATINOS AND BLACKS REMEMBA LEAVE THAT PRIDE ASIDE CUZ EVENTHOUGH WE GOT A WHOLE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE,WE STILL ALL RELATED,WHO KNOWS?MAYBE THE PERSON ACCROSS THE STREET FROM ME DAS FROM A MEXICAN,OR BLACK RACE MIGHT BE RELATED TO U OR ME CUZ THE SLAVE S THAT GOT WITH MEXICAN WOMEN MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THEIR PARENTS ANCESTORS OR SUMTHIN YALL FEEL ME,ALL LATINOS AND BLACKS RELATED IN A WAY,ONE WAY OR ANOTHA

AIDA

U KNO WUTT ALL DIS TROUBLE AND DISLIKE STARTED BACK IN SLAVERY,WEN DA WHITE MAN ARRIVED TO AMERICA WITH THE BLACK SLAVES THE MEXICANS WAS THERE BUT THEY HAD TO LEAVE CUZ THE WHITS HAD MORE POWER LIKE ALWAYS,BUT EVENTUALLY DA MEXICANS WOULD COME BACK FO BETTA OPPORTUNITIES IN AMERICA IN THE 1900'S,THEY DIDNT SPEAK SPANISH,THEY DIDNT KNO ABOUT PAY BUT THEY JUS NEEDED MONEY A BETTA LIVING,SO WEN THEY ARRIVED,THE WHITE MAN GAVE THEM WORK AND SINCE THEY WAS STUPID AND DIDNT KNO ENGLISH OR NUTHIN THEY,AND WEN DEY START WORKIN THE WHITE MAN SAW THEY WORKED HARDER THAN THE BLACKS AND FO LESS CASH SO DEY SAID "OH FUCK THE BLACKS,LETS TAKE THE MEXICANS,THEY WORK HARDR,THEY STUPID AND WE AINT VEN GOTTA PAY EM A LOT OF CASH"SO THEY DID,AND SINCE MOST MEXICANS WAS HIRED MOST BLACKS LOST THEIR JOBS CUZ THE WHITES DIDNT WANT THEM NO MORE,SO THEY TOOK IT AGAINST THE MEXICANS,"OH YALL TOOK OUR JOBS,FUCKIN BORDA HOPPAS",AND TODAY THE PPL DAT WAS ENSLAVED WAS ANGRY ABOUT DAT THEY START HATIN MEXICANS,AND I GUESS PASSED IT ON TO THEY KIDS,THEN THEY GOT OLDA ,AND NOW TODAY WE FIGHTIN AND DIEIN IN RIOTS,KILLIN OUR OWN BLOOD,MOST OF MEXICO IS MIXED WITH AFRICAN BLOOD,LIKE IN COSTA CHICA,GURRERO,OAXACA,MICHOACAN,VERACRUS,TENOCHITLAN AND A LOT OF OTHE PLACES IN MEXICO

AIDA

ALL PUERTO RICANS MEXICANS,CUBANS,SALVADOREANS,HONDUREANS,DOMINICAN REPUBLICANS,AND OTHA LATINO COUNTRIES IS DESCENDED FROM AFRICAN SLAVES,BUT THE LANGUEGE WE SAHRE WAS DEVELOPED BY US AND INFLUENCE FROM AFRICANS TOO,OUR DRUMS,IS MADE OUT OF ANIMAL SKIN WHICH CAME FROM ANGOLA IN AFRICA AND IS USED IN OUR MUSIC TODAY ITS CALLED A "TPONGA",AND USED IN OUR MUSIC TODAY,CUMBIA,BACHTAS,SALSA,ZOMBA ETC
MERENGUE,AND ALL LATIN DANCES,AFRICANS INFLUENCED ALMOST ALL OUR CULTURE,LIKE THE SINGING OF STORIES WHICH IS TODAY A "CORRIDO",WHICH IS MEXICAN MUSIC IT CAME UP IN MEXICO,THE AFRICAN SLAVES WOULD TELL STORIES ABOUT THEY ANCESTRY,FOLKS,ETC BUT IN SINGGIN,AS U C ONLY LATINOS GOT AFRICAN STRINGS ATTACHED UNLESS THEY GIT INVILVED WITH ANY OTHA RACE TODAY,SO WE GOTTA STICK TOGETHA,WEN HAVE U SEEN A BLACK OR LATINO AS A PRESIDENT,AND WEN ONEOF US FINALLY ACCOMPISHES SUMTHIN OR IS STARTIN TOO,WE GIT KILLED SHOT,LIKE MALCOLM X,MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.,PANCHO VILLA ETC,WE NEVA OWN SHIT,AND WE NEVA WILL UMLESS WE STICK TOGETHA BLACKS AND LATINOS,AND IF WE CAN TRY TO MAKE PEACE WITH THE OTHA RACES,LETS QUIT FIGHTING WE HATIN ON OUR OWN RACES DAS NONSENSE

AIDA

MA MOMMAS FAM IS JUST SPANISH AND INDIAN WITH COLORED EYES BUT MA DADDY FAMILY IS DARK SKINNED,ALMOST BLACK LOOKIN EYES,KINKY HAIR AND OTHA AFRICAN AMERICAN FEATURES.MA DADDY SAY YEAH MOST OF MEXICO IS BLACK BECAUSE OF THE SLAVES THAT WERE EXPORTED DURING THE SLAVERY PERIOD,MEXICOS FOLK DANCES,FOOD,CULTURE AND OTHA THINGS WERE INFLUENCED BY AFRICANS,OUR PHYSICAL ETC

AIDA

WUSS GOOD ROOM, YEAH ALL U IS RIGHT ABOUT MEXICO BEIN AFRO MEXICAN,HAVE ALL U EVER WONDERED WHY ALMOST ALL WHITE PL DENY THAT THATS TRUE,OR DENY HEARING IT?,AND U KNO WHY THEY DO IT,BECAUSE THEY SCARED THAT THAT FACT MAY BE REAL KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE BLACKS AND SOME MEXICANS THEN WE ALL END UP UNITING,BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN NEW YORK, AND LOS ANGELES IN CITIES SUCH AS COMPTON.LONG BEACH,BRONX,BROOKLYN,SOUTH CENTRAL,AND IN VICTORVILLE,SAN BERNARDINO AND SO ON,THERE ARE RIOTS BETWEEEN LATINOS AND BLACKS,

:Teref-Ankh

I glad to find someone that can link us together, now lets get the sister with us because we were considered slaves because we allowed our woman to become slaves!!

Nubianem

THE WAY TO RESPOND TO THIS IS BY:

1. Start a Black Afro-Mestiza cultural revolution and BLACK AFRICANISMO MOVEMENT IN MEXICO.
Presently, 55% to 85% of Mexico's population has African ancestry. Moreover, millions are phenotypically Negro/Black in features. These Afro-Mestizas should be brought into the Pan-African family. See www.afromexico.org

2. TAKE STEPTS TO CREATE MATERIAL ON THE GLORIOUS BLACK HISTORY OF MEXICO OVER THE PAST 40,000 YEARS. YES, RECENT DISCOVERIES IN PUEBLA OF A FOOTPRINT SHOWS THAT PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IN MEXICO FOR 40,000 YEARS. Which RACE was in existence about 40,000 years ago. It was the Black Negro race.
The study and uplifting of the Manding-Shi (Olmec) civilization should be part of the study of Black American/Pan-African history, see "A History of the African-Olmecs: Black Civilizations of America from Prehistoric Times to the Present Era," published by www.AuthorHouse.com also at http://community.webtv.net/nubianem

3. Reclassification of Mexicans with identifiable African features, color and genes as Black Afro-Mexican.

4. Study the history of the founders of Mexico's first civilization. It was a Manding-Shi king from the Sahara/West Africa called "Meci" He was a great emperor of the 'Si' or Manding-Shi people. They spoke the Mandinga language and Blacks and Indians in Mexico who are of the Mandinga groups are in fact part of the greater African racial group. In fact, many Mandinga in West Africa look like Black Mexicans and Black Mexican Indians. See www.afromexico.org www.afromexico.com

5. Blacks all over Mexico, including the Afro-Mestiza and mixed Blacks MUST REALIZE THAT GENETICALLY, THE BLACK RACE IS THE ORIGINAL RACE FROM WHICH ALL PEOPLE CAME FROM. Therefore a person with Black genes, blood, appearance and ancestry is Black no matter how mixed they appear.

Simply put, THE BLACK RACE IS THE PARENT RACE AND ALL OTHER PEOPLE CAME FROM THE BLACK RACE. Therefore, if Black mixes with another race, the child is carrying the 70 percent Black chromosomes in whites and the 60 percent Black chromosomes in Mongoloids (such as Chinese, Philipino, ALL AMERICAN INDIANS --- See "Scientific American article on Black/African genes/chromosomes in Europeans and Asians).

And so, THE DUTY OF AFRICANISTS IS TO USE THE INSULTS THAT MEXICO SENDS AGAINST BLACKS AS ONE STEP TO THE TOTAL LIBERATION OF BLACKS IN MEXICO.

6. Unification groups like THE MANDINGAS, CALIFU, AFRO-MESTIZA AND OTHER AFRICOID GROUPS OF MEXICO INTO THE PAN-AFRICAN COMMUNITY.

7. Working to INCREASE THE BLACK MEXICAN POPULATION AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE NOT FURTHER BLENDED OUT THROUGH CALLOUS MIXING.

Blacks in ALL THE AMERICAS SHOULD ALSO CELEBRATE A SPECIAL DAY TO RECOGNIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF MANDING-SHI CIVILIZATION IN MEXICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA OVER FIVE THOUSAND YEARS AGO.

According to Zacaria Sitchin ( www.ancientamerica.com ), Mexico's first calendar was established in 3113 BC when Africans from Nubia-Kush/Egypt establish centers of trade and culture in the VeraCruz region. At the same period and after, Meci, the ancient Manding Emperor sailed to Mexio on 8 large ships and they established more settlements. About the 800's BC, Nigerians belonging to the Shaman and Orisha religions (Thunder and Lightening Worship) established a PRIESTHOOD AND CEREMONIAL CENTER AT MONTE ALBAN, MEXICO. THEY USED THE MANDINGA ALPHABET AS WELL AS THE LANGUAGE (SEE, "Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," published by www.AuthorHouse.com

SEE THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL SIMILARITIES BETWEEN AFRICANS LIKE TODAY'S NUBA, NUER, DINKA AND THE ANCIENT OLMECS (MANDING-SHI) OF ANCIENT MEXICO. Go to http://community.webtv.net/pabarton

Skeezix

Thanks for posting this. There's an error, though: it's either "la lucha" (Spanish) or "a luta" (Portuguese). I'm not sure what "la luta" means--"lute" is "laúd"--which isn't what I think you intended, right?

Oaktown Girl

How come no one ever has to apologize to Black people? No apology for slavery; no real apology for lynching; no apology for mass voter supression; no apology for police brutality; no apology from Vicente Fox, and the list goes on. This is, of course, a rhetorical question. No one has to apologize to Black people because it's still OK to inflict hurt on Black people with no repercussions. Like my uncle says, "Everyone's white except for Black folks". (The Black Commentator had a great feature on that very subject recently).

What really gets me is that no one in the mainstream media comes out and says this, (that it's still OK to hurt and offend Black people), they just make excuses for it whenever it happens.

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